From Caroline Moorehead's widely praised and (I gather) authoritative
book on MarthA Gellhorn

Penn and Teller take us through the Bible and find


Those of a religiously sensitive disposition may wish to consider
whether they really want to watch this
comedy video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E
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Reza Moradi's remake of Fitna, the Movie: Fitna Remade |
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"To stop terrorism we must be against poles of terrorism, the US terrorism and the Islamist terrorism; being against one should not lead us to support the other one. No one must be allowed to legitimize and promote killing people …” -- Shiva Mahbobi, 30/9/2006 (on Maryam Namazie's blog here: http://tinyurl.com/66v8w5 )
Some comments from the discussion (link below §)
“[Wilders] has got his own [very right wing] agenda [and] his basic concern is [about] immigration into Europe [as well as] the threat that he thinks Islam poses to Europe. [I]f it wasn’t for that he would have absolutely no concerns about Islam and so his agenda really doesn’t coincide with ours at all…”
“[T]he aim of this film was not to criticise Islam, it was to attack immigrants who are basically labelled Muslims. It was ridiculous propaganda I think against these people. …”
“[B]ut criticising Islam is important …and there should be big criticism [but] the bad thing that I think the film has supported is, that the next person who wants to criticise Islam, they are just going to point the finger at him saying: oh you are anti-Muslim, anti-immigration, anti-foreigners. I think this big distinction needs to be made. …”
Maryam Namazie: “[I] thought how dare he. The political Islamic movement has wreaked havoc for decades, long before September 11, long before the Madrid or London bombings. In Iran, we have lost an entire generation to this movement and we have struggled and fought against this movement. How dare he equate all of us as one and the same with the political Islamic movement? It made me quite angry.”
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Fariborz Pooya, summing up the discussion §, says: "Fitna, as mentioned here, doesn’t fundamentally criticise Islam; it doesn’t criticise the political Islamic movement and Islamic states that is destroying the lives of millions every day. And effectively its anti-immigrant tone distorts the whole picture. The reality is that millions of people are fighting against the political Islamic movement and that’s the movement that needs to be supported. Freedom of expression and the right to criticise Islam and religion and is a fundamental right that needs to be upheld."
Reza Moradi (See also below* for more information on him), a member of the Council of ex-Muslims in Britain (CEMB)’s Executive Committee, has produced Fitna Remade in response to Geert Wilders Fitna, the Movie, May 20, 2008 He said: "Fitna, the Movie ... doesn’t really criticise Islam and more importantly the political Islamic movement. Rather, it attacks immigrants, labels millions as ‘Muslims’, and implies their support for a movement that millions have opposed, resisted and fled from. I had to do a remake to show the real story from one of these millions."
Council of ex-Muslims of Britain:
I have transcribed the commentary from Fitna Remade (any errors are mine, Brian R) as follows: (Link to the video, and also to a discussion on Wilders’ original film, are below.)
The opening (written) statement of Fitna Remade has this: "Fitna is a 2008 short film by right wing Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders. It does not represent the truth; in fact it represents Eurocentric racist views about people labeled or deemed Muslim.
“What follows is an edited version of Fitna with [Reza Moradi's] commentary about the realities of Islam and political Islam. It is an attempt to disgrace political Islam and its apologists and side with the masses of people resisting it in the Middle East."
The commentary continues: "There are similar inhumane verses [Wilders had quoted from the Koran – BR] in all religions but what is different about Islam today is that it is a religion in power. ... On September 11, the political Islamic movement extended its reach of terror to the people in the west ... Unfortunately people in the west have not been witness to the slaughter of an entire generation in the Middle East and North Africa. They have not seen the stoning of Maryam Ayoubi on their TV screens … the hanging of sweet 16 Atefeh Rajabi for acts against chastity ... the acid thrown on women's faces for improper veilings …the torture of labour and student activists and political opponents … the beheadings and the mass graves ...
“The biggest victims for several decades have been those deemed or labelled Muslim by Geert Wilders Western governments' only concern about this movement is that it has moved out of its sphere of influence, otherwise it was their policy that brought it to centre stage during the Cold War. It was their solution to a Left-leaning revolution in Iran.
“The threats faced by people at the forefront of resisting this movement in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere are not headline news. Instead, the killers are heads of state who are warmly welcomed into the UN, the ILO, and given the red carpet treatment by western governments.
“Political Islam in Iran is being brought to its knees by a vast social movement. Today this movement leads a battle of enlightenment against Islam in power. Its victory depends on the solidarity of people everywhere with the people's movement in Iran against both poles of international terrorism - US-led and Islamic terrorism.
“The rise of Islam in power in Europe is opening the way for religion's detrimental role in society and the diminishing of secularism. Labelling masses of people as Muslims is an attempt to make them one and the same with the political Islamic movement. In reality, a large majority of these so-called Muslims are victims, survivors and opponents of the political Islamic movement. They must be granted asylum, protection and treated as equal citizens.
“Appeasing the political Islamic movement, cultural relativism, and labelling and ghettoizing masses of people, only serves to hand them over to reactionary Islamic organisations and parasitical imams and is a prescription for increased discrimination and violence in society, such as honour killings. This has been the reality for people in the Middle East for three decades now. It can only be stopped, not by bombing Iran and Iraq, but by showing real solidarity with the resisting people in the region, by defending universal rights, by defending secularism and demanding an end to religion's role in society at large.”
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Fitna Remade can be seen here: http://www.fitna-remade.com/Pages/fitna-remade.html
(I haven’t included a link to Wilders’ original, which can still be found around the web.)
§ Watch the discussion on Wilders' film here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=064_1207316350&p=1
§ Transcript (substantially complete) here: http://www.fitna-remade.com/Pages/resources.html
*See Johann Hari here: http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=843
And I ought to let you know about this too: http://moonbatmedia.com/time_to_go_230906/rezamoradi.html (I was at this Rally – Brian R) 12 Feb 2009 - the web page appears to no longer exist.
"Reza Moradi stages counter-protest" during Tony Benn's speech at STWC anti-war rally, Sept 2006; also http://maryamnamazie.blogspot.com/2006/09/womens-rights-activists-manhandled-by.html which is: http://tinyurl.com/66v8w5 :- "To stop terrorism we must be against poles of terrorism, the US terrorism and the Islamist terrorism; being against one should not lead us to support the other one. No one must be allowed to legitimize and promote killing people including the Stop the War Coalition." |
Short extract from this book
A C Grayling
Against All Gods: Six polemics on religion and an essay on kindness
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